A tiny moment of weakness in this film that Kubrick let Douglas go full on "actor" with the "you can go to HELL!!" moment.. for me its slightly too much.
Also note that at that point Broulard snapped at Colonel Dax that he was overwrought. When you analyze the scene more closely, one realizes that Broulard was the officer in the room most responsible since he was the one who manipulated Mireau into accepting the plan to launch the futile attack.
"They're scum, Colonel. The whole rotten regiment. A pack of sneaking, lying, tail dragging curs."...... a GREAT way to express one's gratitude for the hundreds of thousands of French soldiers who defended Verdun forts; who often fought to the death and would drink contaminated shell hole water, during the drought of summer of 1916 France, before even considering surrendering to the Germans- who by the way were NOT the Nazis back in the First World War, ONLY to have their sociopathic commanders talk THIS SHIT about them as soldiers, AND arrange for their imminent execution . NO WONDER there was a 1917 French Mutiny!
It's a movie. Unlike Germans or English, French have a huge culture of striking, so it was quite normal to see during the war as well. They were disgusted by Nivelle failure and asked for better conditions, they got Nivelle replaced by Petain and got their better conditions.
Se l'attacco fosse stato impossibile, l'unica prova sarebbero le trincee piene dei loro corpi. I Generali francesi non hanno capito fino a che 17 corpi d'armata non si sono ammutinati nel 1917.
War: brave men put in harms way expected to give full measure for an officer put in his position by a higher ranking officer & so on. Then these brave men get judged by fools & their insane measures of valor awarding their precious medals not on true merit but on the arbitrary sanctity of the symbolism of these pathetic, “must be kept rare” pieces of metal & ribbon ostensively a measure of above & beyond the call of duty.
Whether in business or the military, the powerful always arrange for the rank and file to take the fall. Unless the powerful are targeted by another powerful rival. Or there is a full-on revolution, in which case all the officers' heads roll, lol.
- We won WW1 and did most of the job against Germany. - We never outgunned and outnumbered the Germans, Germany was at that time twice more populated than us. It is virtually impossible for France to outman or even outgun Germany. Especially since both time they concentrated most of their forces against us. In 1914 there were 1 600 000 Germans against 1 000 000 French, 70 000 British and 100 000 Belgians In 1940 there were 3 500 000 Germans against 3 000 000 all allies combined.
Ce film le sentier de la gloire réalisé par le grand Kubrick a été interdit en projection en France pendant plus de 25 ans tellement la France avait honte de son histoire de salos de généraux bien planqués dans leurs états majors et puis ce n est pas un bidon l histoire du film est inspiré d une histoire réel la promo d un général pour gagné une étoile de plus la France avait pas la conscience tranquille parce que combine d hommes sont pour la France mais combiens sont morts par la France.
Ce genre de personnage ne s'est pas assez fait botter le cul pour agir ainsi! Incroyable qu'il aient pu survivre au conflit! Une ou plusieurs balles perdues auraient du le toucher depuis longtemps!
Nivelle offensive were in 1917. And no French army was very far from collapsing, especially since Germans had to withdrew to the Hindenburg line. You might refer to the French mutinies, I think foreigners simply doesn't understand that's simply regular period of striking. During wars or not, we will always have organized strikes or unions, that's how it is since the French revolution.
Ordering an attack when knowing it's impossible. When knowing it's suicide. When knowing it's useless. Soldiers had ever right to be in their trenches.
Anybody else would make this seem like a heroic visit to the troops but George Macready's Mireau is inseparable from being a slinking, reprobate and conniving evil. Great acting.
No such thing, the wars end wars lol, brilliant film I was 10 years old approx when I saw it with my father , then I knew why my grandad never spoke about that war.
As heartless as this movie may seem, harsher measure were taken in war in the past than what's shown in the film. Toward the end of WW1, the sides were killing more of their own men than the enemy due to mutinies and demonstrations. yet it's arguably less severe than the old Roman practice of decimation, literally making the army execute one tenth of their own comrades. It's not easy. At times, you do need a strong military to defend your way of life and a strong military needs unwavering loyalty especially in the heat of battle, but morale and loyalty is a two way street. Good leaders generate unwavering loyalty without needing to resort to drastic measures. If you're a terrible commander making terrible decisions, even the most loyal, brave, and dedicated soldiers will turn on you no matter how much fear you attempt to instill.
What are you talking about ? There was just 612 French soldiers who were executed for insubordination, most them were at the beginning of the war when things were really heated and soldiers were freshly conscripted. In 1918, there was only 12 executions. I think you said that because you took the movie too literally lol. It's a dramatisation, it never happened like that.
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The French couldn't defeat another army so the turned on their own for a victory.
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A tiny moment of weakness in this film that Kubrick let Douglas go full on "actor" with the "you can go to HELL!!" moment.. for me its slightly too much.
"I was talking of a hundred men. Now we're down to twelve?" Italian generals in WW1 be like: You were only talking a hundred?
I love that look he gives the general when he says "the one most responsible for the attack"
Also note that at that point Broulard snapped at Colonel Dax that he was overwrought. When you analyze the scene more closely, one realizes that Broulard was the officer in the room most responsible since he was the one who manipulated Mireau into accepting the plan to launch the futile attack.
This is a highly romanticised view of army leadership and honour.
Unfortunately George Macready was highly underused talent. A great character actor.
'Cast in the ROLE of the defense"...nice play of words there...SHOW TRIAL!
Douglas was good but Macready stole the movie in terms of great acting.
All three of these men were great actors. I think the old man that played the head general was the coolest.
i was born with shell shock
Quelle connerie la guerre!
"They're scum, Colonel. The whole rotten regiment. A pack of sneaking, lying, tail dragging curs."...... a GREAT way to express one's gratitude for the hundreds of thousands of French soldiers who defended Verdun forts; who often fought to the death and would drink contaminated shell hole water, during the drought of summer of 1916 France, before even considering surrendering to the Germans- who by the way were NOT the Nazis back in the First World War, ONLY to have their sociopathic commanders talk THIS SHIT about them as soldiers, AND arrange for their imminent execution . NO WONDER there was a 1917 French Mutiny!
It's a movie. Unlike Germans or English, French have a huge culture of striking, so it was quite normal to see during the war as well. They were disgusted by Nivelle failure and asked for better conditions, they got Nivelle replaced by Petain and got their better conditions.
Se l'attacco fosse stato impossibile, l'unica prova sarebbero le trincee piene dei loro corpi. I Generali francesi non hanno capito fino a che 17 corpi d'armata non si sono ammutinati nel 1917.
War: brave men put in harms way expected to give full measure for an officer put in his position by a higher ranking officer & so on. Then these brave men get judged by fools & their insane measures of valor awarding their precious medals not on true merit but on the arbitrary sanctity of the symbolism of these pathetic, “must be kept rare” pieces of metal & ribbon ostensively a measure of above & beyond the call of duty.
Whether in business or the military, the powerful always arrange for the rank and file to take the fall. Unless the powerful are targeted by another powerful rival. Or there is a full-on revolution, in which case all the officers' heads roll, lol.
Un chef-d'œuvre, le plus grand film sur la guerre de 14-18 ,et sur la cruauté de certains généraux français qui envoyaient des jeunes a l'abattoir.
Generals should've set in positions during barrages
The attitude displayed here is why the French army crumbled in two wars. In both occasions they outgunned and outnumbered the Germans.
- We won WW1 and did most of the job against Germany. - We never outgunned and outnumbered the Germans, Germany was at that time twice more populated than us. It is virtually impossible for France to outman or even outgun Germany. Especially since both time they concentrated most of their forces against us. In 1914 there were 1 600 000 Germans against 1 000 000 French, 70 000 British and 100 000 Belgians In 1940 there were 3 500 000 Germans against 3 000 000 all allies combined.
Ce film le sentier de la gloire réalisé par le grand Kubrick a été interdit en projection en France pendant plus de 25 ans tellement la France avait honte de son histoire de salos de généraux bien planqués dans leurs états majors et puis ce n est pas un bidon l histoire du film est inspiré d une histoire réel la promo d un général pour gagné une étoile de plus la France avait pas la conscience tranquille parce que combine d hommes sont pour la France mais combiens sont morts par la France.
Ce genre de personnage ne s'est pas assez fait botter le cul pour agir ainsi! Incroyable qu'il aient pu survivre au conflit! Une ou plusieurs balles perdues auraient du le toucher depuis longtemps!
Sorry to say soldiers were just numbers back then. Look at Verdun..but I respect the soldiers. Rip all hero's
Easy for him to say; it's not his ass on the line, in the trenches.
A classic film showing the futility of war
Let us not forgot while shooting the movie, Kubrick find his future wife
Being tough under these circumstances would be phenomenally difficult.
In 1917 the French army was on the brink of collapse and not able to conduct offensive operations.
Nivelle offensive were in 1917. And no French army was very far from collapsing, especially since Germans had to withdrew to the Hindenburg line. You might refer to the French mutinies, I think foreigners simply doesn't understand that's simply regular period of striking. During wars or not, we will always have organized strikes or unions, that's how it is since the French revolution.
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I think this is one of Douglas' best performances.
That's because this is the best movie (together with "Ace in the Hole") Douglas took part in.
Ordering an attack when knowing it's impossible. When knowing it's suicide. When knowing it's useless. Soldiers had ever right to be in their trenches.
"This is not a question of officers!" WW1 in a nutshell
Would you like me to suggest what you can do with that promotion? LOL
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Anybody else would make this seem like a heroic visit to the troops but George Macready's Mireau is inseparable from being a slinking, reprobate and conniving evil. Great acting.
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La mejor película de Kirk Douglas.
STOP THE WAR IN EUROIPE. !!!!!
No such thing, the wars end wars lol, brilliant film I was 10 years old approx when I saw it with my father , then I knew why my grandad never spoke about that war.
Great film
General Patton did exactly the same thing to some guy who suffered from shell shock in the Second World War
The good General just happened to visit the three condemned men.
I keep expecting the camera to pan over to Edmund Blackadder III for color commentary
I love how Dax does not take his eye off the general as he salutes and clicks his heels and grabs his hat.
Paths of Glory. Since everyone just annoyingly refers to it as “the movie” for some reason.
If we are talking about my country I say you can have it wtf it's gone anyhow shit
The French army actually did execute their own soldiers when they were randomly deemed to be "cowardly." It's messed up.
Like all armies.
The movie is Paths of Glory (1957)
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idk if anybody else noticed this but the shellshocked guy looks just like the dead allied soldier in all quiet on the western front
As heartless as this movie may seem, harsher measure were taken in war in the past than what's shown in the film. Toward the end of WW1, the sides were killing more of their own men than the enemy due to mutinies and demonstrations. yet it's arguably less severe than the old Roman practice of decimation, literally making the army execute one tenth of their own comrades. It's not easy. At times, you do need a strong military to defend your way of life and a strong military needs unwavering loyalty especially in the heat of battle, but morale and loyalty is a two way street. Good leaders generate unwavering loyalty without needing to resort to drastic measures. If you're a terrible commander making terrible decisions, even the most loyal, brave, and dedicated soldiers will turn on you no matter how much fear you attempt to instill.
Killing more of their own men than the enemy. Source?
And what justifies the way of life? What justifies the elitist monarchies of Europe to send the poor to die over pointless war?
What are you talking about ? There was just 612 French soldiers who were executed for insubordination, most them were at the beginning of the war when things were really heated and soldiers were freshly conscripted. In 1918, there was only 12 executions. I think you said that because you took the movie too literally lol. It's a dramatisation, it never happened like that.